if you have bpd, or ptsd, high anxiety and panic, anger, paranoia..what is the best treatment that worked for?
you?
could you explain what type of treatment worked best or whether it was a combination of different things that helped?
to give me an idea on the right support and treatment i should be trying to get..
im a bpd sufferer, im 30 years old, i live with rage and anger feelings because of a bullying and abusive past, unresolved anger, and supressed anger.
i have high anxiety and panic where i cannot leave or go out anywhere, except when i have to.
i have inner anger feelings stemming from my bullying past, from being attacked and harrassed…..the anger impairs my ability to go out and function, incase i have an anger outburst.
i control it well, but still deal with the feelings.
i have paranoia that certain people are against me, want to ruin my life.
i have racing obsessive thoughts, that lead to high levels of panic and anxiety, cant hold a thought, keep forgetting.
low bleak moods everyday.
im just wondering if anybody knows what kind of treatment i should be chasing?
plus could you go into detail on what treatment you
think would help or work?
i do desperatly want help and to change, but right
now, i dont feel im getting the right help and support.
my psychiatrist wont give meds because he said there
addictive….they have set up psychotherapy..
but with
my symptoms, im wondering if its enough
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DBT – is the only known treatment that works for Bpd.
Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) is an empirically validated treatment approach developed for Borderline Personality Disorder. A key assertion in DBT is that self-destructive behaviors are learned coping strategies for unbearable intense negative emotions.
DBT combines cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) strategies with Eastern mindfulness (Zen) practices and involves both individual therapy and group skills training. Clinical research has consistently found DBT to be effective in reducing self-destructive behavior patterns and in optimizing ability to cope more effectively.
Please check out the websites below to find out more the first is a site by a doctor who specializes in Bpd…
The second is a site run by a great lady named Ash who is/was a borderline sufferer.
Stick with your psychologist. They will be able to help you come to terms with the root cause of your problem.
A non addictive herd such as Valerian, can reduce the effects of panic attacks, but be careful to only take one and test yourself for any increased agressive feeling. If you do have an increase your body can`t handle it.
Other possible herbal relaxants are Hops and Passionflower.
Go and talk to a herbalist and get one on one advice and help on the use of herbs, to reduce your anxiety.
Be sure to keep both your GP and Psychologist fully informed on any action you take.
In my experience…. bullying causes resistance to what is happening in this moment, so that excessive thinking arises and causes suffering.
Suffice to say, I can help.
for me age 31 depression panic attacks rages is treated with lexapro daily and clonepin as needed with recomendation for counseling which i have not followed thru on because mental health system where are live is medevil
Hi, I have BPD and get mood swings with it that range from almost manic to severe depression. I’m currently on Citalopram (40mg) and Quetiapine (Seroquel – 100mg (am, 200mg (pm)). I find this combination really helps me, I’ve just had to have my quetiapine increased as my mood has gone quite high again, but I’ve not been as stable as I have been for months. It also helps with my paranoia as the quetiapine is an anti-psychotic. I was on lithium that really helped, but it started to affect my thyroid so I had to be taken off it.
Unfortunately, just because this combination works for me, it might not work for the next person, medications for these types of illness are very hit and miss, it’s a case of finding the one or combination that work for you.
I hear you and I’m putting this at the beginning because don’t know if you’ll make it to the end. My Grampa told me something I don’t know if I can say one word, so I think you’re smart enough to figure out the word,lol.
You must have stepped in it a lot, too, maybe you’ll make it through this long answer. But I put a lot of thought and me into it, you asked for an answer.
But first, I want to share this, which is repeated near the end, and you’ll know what I mean even if you just read part of my answer, just try,please read the following:
My Grampy told me this at 10.He said, "Janie (not my name,noris the other one,I heard it and like it, but I still fear someone), some days you step in dog**** and you can scrape it off your shoes. But sometimes honey, you gotta go buy a pair of new shoes." I live by that saying, and I hear it when I need to in my Grampa’s voice. I know when I step in it and when I need new shoes now,, I know what he meant so long ago when I was 10.
And this is what I have to say to you based on your question.
As a person with 32 years of physical,mental and sexual abuse, I am so glad to say to you, LISTEN TO YOUR DOCTOR , A PILL DOESN’T WORK IF YOUR MIND ISN’T WORKING WITH IT. The caps were not meant to be disrespectful at all, I only used them because you can’t use the bold lettering for some reason,so I am not hollering at you okay? I commend you for being in therapy, I commend you for asking for help in other venues (ie; this one), I commend you for admitting it to the people that read Yahoo Answers!
I am 50 years old now. I have had over 30 of my bones broken, all of my ribs, multiple times, from cruel people in my life BEFORE (caps again, please don’t take it as hollering, remember, no bold print available), so badly,it has changed how much air my lungs will hold because they healed and as they did at times, they did it by pushing in on my lungs. If I get a cold, especially in the winter, I get pneumonia, and to top it off, I cough so much, I re-break my ribs! I stopped it, well my Oldest younger brother did by taking me to the ER and asking them to put me in the Mental Health Ward and get someone to tell me that life is NOT supposed to be this way in 1989, after that I was divorced very quickly.
My 2nd husband would keep me away from my family and friends, in front of his, he would brag of his control, and he had it because I was terrified ALL the time. He even drowned me on a camping trip he said I was NOT coming home from in the first year of the 15 months we were married! The court didn’t even make me pay for anything, I didn’t even need a lawyer. You wanna hear a miscarriage of Justice, because of what happened on that island,in that lake, his Probation Officer, because of other abuse instances, violated him with 10 counts, including attempted Murder, he revived me,gee thanks, but the kicker to make it hurt again,the DA never even looked at my case, though he had it for 2months, didn’t even look at it until 20 minutes before court and he had not read the PO report sent 2 months prior, and had only charged him with domestic assault. I have permanent Brain Damage, am unemployable in my field, I had an IQ same as Einstein, it was my nickname in 5th grade! I had to learn how to do my own money again! I got Permanent Disability when it was applied for me,in the hospital! I got my first check in 3 months! That’s how much I understand how much pain you sound like you are in, I am so very sorry, you are worth more than the way your life has been, but I beg you DON’T give up on what your doctor is doing FOR you by NOT putting you on meds you sound like you want.
Maybe you aren’t ready to have the responsibility of them yet, and please don’t take it the wrong way. My baby brother even had to have a worker go to and from his appointments with him and bring his meds home and lock them up, because he was not responsible enough to have possession of them because he DID abuse them when he got them on his own,it was too soon. So he had a worker. One day, I am told she was running late. But she allowed my brother to take 30 Percocet upstairs and believed and trusted him to NOT take any more than what she had physically given him. He had horrible abuse, as did all of us kids, my brothers only luck was that heirs stopped when they left my Mother’s and Father’s home. Mine didn’t. But back to the sad fact that some cannot have some meds.
My little brother, took street drugs to the point of abusing them, he’d drink a fifth of straight vodka. He’d hock his guitar, his pride and joy, to get the dreams and screams out of his head. That day that he was allowed to take the Percocet for his bleeding ulcers from the straight vodka, he took all30 of them and he died at 31 years old. I had him in my room from the day he came home from the hospital at 2 months old because he was a preemie,my Mom was an alcoholic, and didn’t stop even for her pregnancy and it was his milk he told me from the time he found alcohol in the house at 4 until the day it was a catalyst in his death.
Don’t let your life be like his, he wanted to rush to be "cured" of PTSD, abuses, and or anything else your poor soul has had to endure.
I have Acute Anxiety, Acute PTSD, insecurities too many to mention, I am hyper sensitive, I can be hyper vigilant and dear, I have been in therapy since 1990! It doesn’t just go away. You can’t learn when you are on medications until you learn how they can help you. They may give you the medications you are thinking of someday, but trust the Doctor you have, if he/she isn’t enough, ask for a case worker, I still have one I meet with once a week. I periodically have to go back into therapy, I am back in now.
I have what are called Anniversary Dates. It’s a date of trauma,like a car accident or like when someone drowns you. It pops up around the same time each year , the time of year I was drowned. I have another one that doesn’t always come every year. It did this year, I am with a therapist again, but I know it’s not forever. I just go back and get reminded of the skills I have learned. We call it my Mental Health Tool Box, and I add to it all year it seems. But, the more you learn, the more you will be able to trust, and the more ou learn, the more ou will be trusted to be the huge part of your recovery that CAN include medications.
But if you aren’t on them right now, or the ones you think you need right now,maybe you aren’t ready for them. Sorry if that isn’t what you wanted someone to say, but I’m baring it a lot to tell you that there IS a light at the end of the tunnel. There IS ! I wouldn’t have stayed with therapy for 17 years if it didn’t, ok?
I stayed single for 15 years, my kids went through hell before I went to the hospital. I didn’t do well with relationships at ALL! I found people who were like lost cute puppies, always telling me how crappy their life had been and I would try to fix it for them. It just made it worse for my kids and me. So I stayed single until they gradated High School. Even after that! They have been out of school since 1999.
I just got married for the 3rd time in my life to a man who I picked when I was a Sophomore in High School and I didn’t even know him. I had a painting by Winslow Homer called The Guide, I had written, this is my mountainman, I will marry him. I am writing a book, have been since 2003, about a mountainman who finds a bloody footed woman in the woods who has run away with rags tied to her feet, from an abusive man, that woman is me!
I saw him, September 16th, 2005, standing at the bottom of the stairs at a C& W Saloon, a night, one in 2 years that I went out alone, just to dance, have someone hold me. I saw him and I gasped to myself "The Guide!"
I asked a blonde woman if he was single or with anyone, she said "No, that’s Cowboy Pete, on the commercials? You’ve heard them haven’t you?" I said I had, but I was just asking because I was absolutely terrified that he was there with someone and she’d come kick my you know what! Well he was just tapping his foot at the bottom of the stairs and he looked so good! This other lady had to just walk by me and give me that evil eye and intimidate me so I waited cuz she said she had him first, I could talk to him after she was done. I was 48! and I was 15 again and terrified!
So I waited, grew some ….s,lol, and when he walked up to get a drink, I tapped him on the shoulder and asked if he had room on his dance card for another person. He looked at me and had such a brilliant smile. He said "Young lady, I have one other lady I owe a dance to and nothing after, you can have me all the rest of the night if you can handle my dancing!" I was in heaven. I had courage to go out that I didn’t have before, I had courage to ASK a MAN to dance, not wait. I had to learn EVERYTHING son, EVERYTHING! over I had programmed by others into me.
Well, we got married 51 days later. He is a Vietnam Veteran with Acute PTSD and Acute anxiety, everyone thought we were nuts! Nobody believed 2 people like us could make it, but, even though we are in therapy, learning how to be 2 instead of 1, I am his 5th wife!, we are still in therapy, we STILL believe we need help in areas, especially relationship longevity with a healthy MINDED person. We make mistakes, but we have NOT given up on saying "I NEED HELP! AGAIN!"
Don’t feel like you HAVE to have meds, my husband doesn’t have to take them. I do though.
You can do it! Start your own Mental Health Tool Box if you want. It’s just someplace in your mind or some of it in a notebook, I carry one, I learn something EVERY SINGLE DAY to make myself well. It’s probably going to be a lifetime thing for us, but IF you listen and tell the truth in THE SAFEST PLACE YOU COULD BE, with your Doctor, he/she will know WHEN you need meds and what kind they should be for you,okay?
This is probably the longest answer you’ll get, you might not make it to the end, I hope you do, because, even though I don’t know you personally,I know what I read and I knew I could identify with you because I was 32 when I went for help first time. But you can do it, you can make it to the point that you can be around people without letting rage interfere, if it does, will know it’s time to walk away, see if you can walk it off, and come right back and be around people again, right then, some days, you might have to walk away and come back tomorrow.
My Grampa told me something I don’t know if I can say one word, so I think you’re smart enough to figure out the word,lol.
He said, "janie (not my name), some days you step in dog**** and you can scrape it off your shoes. But sometimes honey, you gotta go buy a pair of new shoes." I live by that saying, and I hear it when I need to in my Grampa’s voice. You must have stepped in it a lot, too.
But, I am here to tell you, the Tool Box Works and there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
I’m BPD. I’m 45. I was raped and abused as an infant into childhood and sold to strangers so my parents could have drugs… so I guess you could say I was bullied. There isn’t a medication invented by man that will fix it.
You have got to want to win. You have got to want to overcome. And you have got to want it bad. Listen to your doctors. Help them help you.
The greatest revenge is a successful productive life; so find your triggers and learn how to cope. You can do it. I am a crazy old bird with demons who scream in her head. But I am so much more than that. I’m an executive; a creative; a woman with a life that matters. If I can do it; so can you.
St Johns Wort herbal tablets help wih anxiety alot and if you can lower your anxiety it can help with other things like depression and paranoia and anger also. I take St Johns Wort and it has helped me ALOT – take it every nightime before bed.as directed on the bottle it comes in.
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Dialetical Behavioural Therapy DBT can help with BPD if u stick at it – it can be annoying but try to complete the whole therapy.
Your doctor is right pharamacuetical medications can make things worse.
Try reading The Mood Cure by Dr Julia Ross it explains alot of things you may need help with.
I have been in therapy for 3years now and I am alot better now but you have to stick at it even through the hard parts. If you are not getting along with your therapist try a new one I have had alot of different therapists but have had the sameone for 2 years now with much sucess now I have found the right one.
All the best
There is a good site that has an Overview of Treatments for the Axis II, Cluster B personality disorders. The site is for family members of those that have PDs but the Treatment page may be helpful to you. Check out http://www.thenook4pds.com